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On the mat HELPs

SileX (207 )

12/19/2010 9:44 PM

You haven't written much about his skill level. I'm guessing that you are better skilled, otherwise your matches are doomed to be very one-sided from the start.

I used to fight guys 50% heavier than me (which I don't do much anymore). Some of the things I have learned:

  • Avoid the guard if he is too thick for you to comfortably lock your ankles. You will have a hard time maintaining this position, and his girth pressing on you will tire you out.
  • Be patient. Don't try to go toe to toe. Evade, look for an opening. Don't try anything that pits strength vs strength (like wrist lockups). Only go for situations where you can work with more limbs than him, or you have much better leverage.
  • Actually, unless he can put his weight on you, time is on your side. Tire him out, wait for him to make a mistake, then go for an arm lock.
  • Everyone has a neck, but some are less accessible. You have to make your own space by pushing his head back. Use your own head if you can, plus weight.

That said, if the weight and strength difference is too much, basically nothing will work! Just a fact of life. Accept it, and use this as a learning experience. There is a reason most fight tournaments have weight divisions!

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redlandguy (195)

12/02/2018 3:11 PM

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A refinement of this : Avoid being on bottom with bigger guys, and avoid the closed guard except as an escape route from somewhere worse.

As a smaller guy, you may be faster, more flexible, or have better endurance than a big guy like me.

Some smaller guys have a very effective open guard games, where they are using the feet to "frame" –keeping the opponent's hips and shoulders away. This only works if you keep moving. If you stay too still, a more powerful opponent can more use his power. But as a faster, more agile person, you can keep the game moving fast enough to waste a lot of his energy and hopefully trigger a mistake. Learning a good open guard game will take some effort but it is very useful.

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Jake Fighter (4 )

8/09/2018 4:18 PM

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thanks fighter guy, more tips

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Tynesider (84)

12/01/2018 9:59 PM

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Thanks from me too Fighterguyy.

Do you have any tips for taking down a taller and/or heavier opponent from the standing position please?

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f4leglock (10)

12/03/2018 7:33 PM

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Yes I'm interested in that too.
As a lightweight, most opponents are heavier. I usually go for a leg takedown, or sometimes ftom a collar and elbow lock up, try for a double wrist lock if he isn't too tall

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holdswrestling (0)

1/14/2019 8:23 AM

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From what I see in your profile you should be quick on the mat in relation to your bigger opponents. So try to be constantly movement to exhaust them. In addition, you will try to get behind to choke or take Nelson + Pin on the mat

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f4leglock (10)

1/14/2019 11:22 AM

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That's good advice. I often wrestle too defensively, when really I should be taking the fight to him

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rassler 315 (154)

12/18/2010 11:13 PM

rassler_315 here, wrestling a 5'7" 290 lber and need suggestions as to how to make him tap. So far, in our matches i have suceeded w/ straight armbar, but he is powerful, esp lower body, hard to keep down, and has 'no neck' his arms are strong before i can get a keylock or armpar locked, he bucks up and rolls out. He is very thick, broad shoulders, large midsection and treetrunk legs. I have not had success w/ guilotines or rearnakedchokes or leg traingles. our matches run about 15-20 mintues, and mostly one of us wins due to exhaustion. Any suggestions for getting to him sooner?

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